Rachel,
This is in reply to your January 10, 2007 e-mail 
to Katrina Ingalls concerning the FFELP Consolidation Loan Application and 
Promissory Note (OMB #1845-0036).
#1 (number of responses for the Loan 
Verification Certificate).  The Department has reviewed your comments and 
we agree that the math used in #12 of the Supporting Statement is probably 
incorrect, and is also unnecessarily complicated.  (The same calculation 
was used in previous submissions for the Direct Consolidation Loan Application 
and Promissory Note forms and was simply carried over here.)  If we are 
simply trying to determine the average annual reporting hour burden for the Loan 
Verification Certificate, then it seems to us that the simplest approach would 
be to multiply the total number of LVCs (2,943,000) by the time needed to 
complete an LVC (0.15 hours).  This results in a total annual reporting 
hour burden of 441,450 hours.  This is very close to the result obtained by 
using the average number of responses as determined by your option (a) in the 
formula shown in the supporting statement:
7,000 respondents x 420 
average respondents x 0.15 hours = 441,000 total hours
I will update #12 
in the supporting statement to reflect a revised calculation of the burden for 
the LVC using your option (a).  I will also update the 
83-I. 
#2 (SSA verification). The planned agreement with SSA is not 
expected to be implemented for at least two years.  Therefore, we will 
delete the borrower authorization related to SSA verification.
Finally, 
please note that we received comments from NCHELP and Texas Guaranteed during 
the 30-day comment period for this collection.  We have tentatively 
accepted the majority of the form changes that were suggested and are now 
waiting for our Office of the General Counsel to give final approval of these 
changes.  Once I have approval from OGC, I will provide you with copies of 
the comments, our responses, and the final revised forms.  I hope to be 
able to provide these documents no later than next week.
Please let me 
know if you have any questions.
Jon Utz
Policy Liaison and 
Implementation
Federal Student Aid
U.S. Department of 
Education
 
-----Original 
Message-----
From:   Ingalls, Katrina
Sent:   Thu 
1/11/2007 9:59 AM
To:     Utz, 
Jon
Cc:     Ingalls, Katrina; Axt, 
Kathy
Subject:        FW: Problem with 
FFELP Consolidation App & Promissory Note #1845-0036
Jon,
Here 
are the OMB comments on your package. Please get responses back to Rachel as 
soon as possible.  Unless you disagree with Rachel's suggestion on #1, 
please change the supporting statement part A (and 83I) accordingly and send 
Rachel and me the revised supporting statement.  (I would ask that you 
update Edics with the changes also when they are completed.)  Call if you 
have questions.  Thanks.
Katrina
 
-----Original 
Message-----
From: Potter, Rachel F. [mailto:Rachel_F._Potter@omb.eop.gov]
Sent: 
Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:49 PM
To: Ingalls, Katrina
Cc: Arrington, 
Angela; Axt, Kathy
Subject: RE: Problem with FFELP Consolidation App & 
Promissory Note #1845-0036
Katrina -
Attached below are two 
OMB comments on this collection.  As soon as we receive your responses, we 
can conclude review.
1.  The number of responses for the Loan 
Verification Certificate is currently an average of the average number of 
responses for the top 5 lenders (approximately 382,570 responses each) and the 
other lenders (approximately 147 responses each).   I believe that the 
math is incorrect here, because rather than averaging the two responses here you 
then sum them and divide by 7,000 again.  The average number of responses 
should be either:
a) the total number of responses (2,943,000) divided by 
the number of respondents (7,000).  This would result in 420 responses. 
OR
b) a weighted average of the responses by type of lender, which would 
result in 124,361 responses. [((.65*382,570)+(.35*147))/2=124,361]
Given 
the large disparity in responses, the weighted average is probably more 
appropriate.  Please update the supporting statement to reflect the change 
to the table and to the burden.  You will also need to update the burden in 
ROCIS.
2.  The Department has rejected NCHELP's suggestion that 
the following language be deleted from the form: "
H. I authorize the 
Department and its agent(s) to verify my Social Security Number with the Social 
Security Administration (SSA) and if the number on my loan record is incorrect, 
then I authorize SSA to disclosure my correct Social Security Number to these 
parties.
What is the status of ED obtaining an agreement with SSA to 
conduct this verification?  Please provide an estimated date when ED plans 
to begin conducting this verification.  It is not appropriate for the Dept. 
to obtain this authorization unless this activity is not imminently 
pending.
  _____ 
From: Ingalls, Katrina [mailto:Katrina.Ingalls@ed.gov]
Sent: 
Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Potter, Rachel F.
Cc: Ingalls, 
Katrina; Arrington, Angela; Axt, Kathy
Subject: FW: Problem with FFELP 
Consolidation App & Promissory Note #1845-0036
Rachel,
I 
wanted to follow up with you on the status of the review of this 
collection.  As you will recall, there was a problem with the certification 
page not being complete and we had to resubmit this on the 13th of 
December.  I am still puzzled about how this happened - but I want to check 
with you to see what timeframe you anticipate for clearance of this package - 
given the circumstances (and the fact that the package was over at OMB for 60 
days on 12/26/06).  Do you consider that 12/13 is the beginning of the 60 
days allocated to OMB - or are you able to shorten the review somewhat given the 
circumstances? I know that the program will be anxious for clearance as soon as 
possible for this form. Please let me know when we might expect your comments on 
this package.  Thanks.
Katrina
-----Original 
Message-----
From: Ingalls, Katrina
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 
12:17 PM
To: 'Potter, Rachel F.'
Cc: Arrington, Angela; Rudolph, Kim; 
Ingalls, Katrina; Axt, Kathy
Subject: RE: Problem with FFELP Consolidation 
App & Promissory Note #1845-0036
Rachel,
I cannot 
understand how this could have happened since I have a copy of the certification 
page that I copied off when I completed the collection and the certification was 
complete.  At any rate, I have just completed the collection again under 
ICR Ref. NO 200612-1845-001and it will be resubmitted today as soon as Angela 
gets a chance to sign off on the package. 
Thanks.
Katrina
 -----Original Message-----
From: Potter, 
Rachel F. [mailto:Rachel_F._Potter@omb.eop.gov]
Sent: 
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:33 PM
To: Ingalls, Katrina
Cc: Arrington, 
Angela; Rudolph, Kim
Subject: Problem with FFELP Consolidation App & 
Promissory Note
Katrina,
In reviewing 1845-0036, it has 
come to my attention that Education has not completed the necessary 
certifications for this collection - see screenshot below.  At this point, 
this is not an edit we (or you) can make in ROCIS and our only option is to 
return this collection to you as improperly submitted.  Fortunately, the 
expiration date for this collection is 12/31/06, so if you immediately resubmit 
the collection to us, Education will not be at risk of either incurring a 
violation or being forced to stop collecting the information. 
We 
are looking into whether future upgrades to ROCIS will force the agency to 
certify before submission is even possible, but at this point we have been asked 
to manually review every collection for incomplete certifications.  Let me 
know if you have any 
questions.
Rachel
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